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		<title>By: Susan Mazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Mazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful thought provoking posts by both you and Art.  And a fabulous demonstration of collaboration.

I think humility is at the heart of Servant Leadership.  In the history of &quot;leadership&quot; the idea of a leader being of service rather than simply being in charge seems to be a relatively new one.

I think that is part of why being &quot;strong&quot; and practicing humility occurs as a paradox when it comes to leading; not because they are truly paradoxical as I think you demonstrate so clearly, but because our deeply rooted beliefs about leaders make it hard to reconcile.

It seems to me a core belief required to lead with humility is that &quot;it&#039;s not about me&quot;.  Your list of ways we can identify when we have crossed the line into arrogance are right on.  And it seems all 4 of them are different versions of &quot;it&#039;s all about me&quot;.  So perhaps that is one way to keep checking in with ourselves - am I focused on what I am standing for or am I focused on myself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful thought provoking posts by both you and Art.  And a fabulous demonstration of collaboration.</p>
<p>I think humility is at the heart of Servant Leadership.  In the history of &#8220;leadership&#8221; the idea of a leader being of service rather than simply being in charge seems to be a relatively new one.</p>
<p>I think that is part of why being &#8220;strong&#8221; and practicing humility occurs as a paradox when it comes to leading; not because they are truly paradoxical as I think you demonstrate so clearly, but because our deeply rooted beliefs about leaders make it hard to reconcile.</p>
<p>It seems to me a core belief required to lead with humility is that &#8220;it&#8217;s not about me&#8221;.  Your list of ways we can identify when we have crossed the line into arrogance are right on.  And it seems all 4 of them are different versions of &#8220;it&#8217;s all about me&#8221;.  So perhaps that is one way to keep checking in with ourselves &#8211; am I focused on what I am standing for or am I focused on myself?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jo Asmus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jo Asmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan - You&#039;ve peaked my interest. What would be an example of the &quot;improper usage of politics&quot;? and what does personal maintenance mean to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan &#8211; You&#8217;ve peaked my interest. What would be an example of the &#8220;improper usage of politics&#8221;? and what does personal maintenance mean to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Jo,

I am very curious about the path to arrogance.  The signals of arrogance develop over time, which is what I believe Sun-Hau is touching on.  Indeed, a humble leader sees duty and service in the power.  Wouldn&#039;t the improper usage of politics be a strong indicator of arrogance as well?

Great post, it relates well to current coursework.  With the common-sense nature of many recommendations such as yours and Art&#039;s, I do see the transition into arrogance as a slippery slope with only one measure of prevention: Personal Maintenance, driven by a proper philosophy and effective education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Jo,</p>
<p>I am very curious about the path to arrogance.  The signals of arrogance develop over time, which is what I believe Sun-Hau is touching on.  Indeed, a humble leader sees duty and service in the power.  Wouldn&#8217;t the improper usage of politics be a strong indicator of arrogance as well?</p>
<p>Great post, it relates well to current coursework.  With the common-sense nature of many recommendations such as yours and Art&#8217;s, I do see the transition into arrogance as a slippery slope with only one measure of prevention: Personal Maintenance, driven by a proper philosophy and effective education.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jo Asmus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jo Asmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin and Steven, Thanks for coming back and adding more to the conversation. You&#039;ve added some wonderful thoughts that deepen the conversation.

And Art - of course - I am grateful and thrilled to work with you on these writing projects and look forward to more collaboration in the future.

Elijah - When we are genuinely empathic and compassionate, we aren&#039;t thinking of ourselves. It would be difficult, at best, to be arrogant when our thoughts and hearts are on others.

Garrick - what a wonderful story! And how unusual. You told it so well that I can imagine sitting in that audience and being touched by such a gesture, which we seldom see. We need more servant leaders like that one! Thank you for stopping by and adding that.

Aaron, thanks for your additions too. I like the statement that when you are humble, you open the door to confidence. Food for thought.

Sun-Hua, thanks for the additional way to think of leaders - in terms of service, which certainly should keep them away from crossing the arrogance line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin and Steven, Thanks for coming back and adding more to the conversation. You&#8217;ve added some wonderful thoughts that deepen the conversation.</p>
<p>And Art &#8211; of course &#8211; I am grateful and thrilled to work with you on these writing projects and look forward to more collaboration in the future.</p>
<p>Elijah &#8211; When we are genuinely empathic and compassionate, we aren&#8217;t thinking of ourselves. It would be difficult, at best, to be arrogant when our thoughts and hearts are on others.</p>
<p>Garrick &#8211; what a wonderful story! And how unusual. You told it so well that I can imagine sitting in that audience and being touched by such a gesture, which we seldom see. We need more servant leaders like that one! Thank you for stopping by and adding that.</p>
<p>Aaron, thanks for your additions too. I like the statement that when you are humble, you open the door to confidence. Food for thought.</p>
<p>Sun-Hua, thanks for the additional way to think of leaders &#8211; in terms of service, which certainly should keep them away from crossing the arrogance line.</p>
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		<title>By: Sun-Hua Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sun-Hua Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post, Mary Jo!
I think it&#039;s hard to not cross the line from self-confidence into arrogance, but what I do is to think leader in different way. Leader is not hero, he/she is facilitator. A leader has to &quot;serve&quot; his team; for example, help his team members communicate clearly and avoid misunderstanding, or motivate his members to be more successful. The title of leaders may cause them have too much confidence, but if they think &quot;leader&quot; in a different way,it can help to keep away from the line of arrogance.
Sun-Hua</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post, Mary Jo!<br />
I think it&#8217;s hard to not cross the line from self-confidence into arrogance, but what I do is to think leader in different way. Leader is not hero, he/she is facilitator. A leader has to &#8220;serve&#8221; his team; for example, help his team members communicate clearly and avoid misunderstanding, or motivate his members to be more successful. The title of leaders may cause them have too much confidence, but if they think &#8220;leader&#8221; in a different way,it can help to keep away from the line of arrogance.<br />
Sun-Hua</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Assad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Assad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right when you say that being humble doesn&#039;t mean to be weak, on the contrary, by being humble you open the door of confidence and people starts trusting you, also when you are humble  you are able to understand things in a different way, a way that allows you to see different choices, and perhaps you are able to make better decisions for everyone. Great post!, greetings, Aaron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right when you say that being humble doesn&#8217;t mean to be weak, on the contrary, by being humble you open the door of confidence and people starts trusting you, also when you are humble  you are able to understand things in a different way, a way that allows you to see different choices, and perhaps you are able to make better decisions for everyone. Great post!, greetings, Aaron</p>
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		<title>By: Garrick Throckmorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrick Throckmorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Jo and Art,

Great posts that quickly capture a leadership quality that creates willing followers. This post reminded me of a key moment in my career that directly applies.
I used to work in the sales/marketing function for a major Rx company. I was in attendance at an annual sales awards banquet and watched as one manager after took to the stage to receive their award. The last award of the evening was to be given to the top sales team in the nation. The award was announced and the manager took to the stage. Without hesitating he stated that he would not accept the award unless his entire team came onto the stage. Once his team had assembled he simply led the audience in applause for their work and then exited the stage. In that moment we witnessed true leadership humility. As they took to their seats I can distinctly remember the team I worked with saying, &quot;I would work for him any day.&quot;
He was clearly comfortable in his own &quot;leadership skin,&quot; took very little credit for their success, and was the antithesis of weakness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Jo and Art,</p>
<p>Great posts that quickly capture a leadership quality that creates willing followers. This post reminded me of a key moment in my career that directly applies.<br />
I used to work in the sales/marketing function for a major Rx company. I was in attendance at an annual sales awards banquet and watched as one manager after took to the stage to receive their award. The last award of the evening was to be given to the top sales team in the nation. The award was announced and the manager took to the stage. Without hesitating he stated that he would not accept the award unless his entire team came onto the stage. Once his team had assembled he simply led the audience in applause for their work and then exited the stage. In that moment we witnessed true leadership humility. As they took to their seats I can distinctly remember the team I worked with saying, &#8220;I would work for him any day.&#8221;<br />
He was clearly comfortable in his own &#8220;leadership skin,&#8221; took very little credit for their success, and was the antithesis of weakness.</p>
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		<title>By: Elijah Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elijah Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Jo

Great post!  You and Art have brought up a very important aspect of leadership.  I think people who are humble and seek inner satisfaction and inner achievement versus the recognition of their achievements from others, often become fare superior leaders.  Could you explain more on the empathy and compassion aspect of becoming arrogant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Jo</p>
<p>Great post!  You and Art have brought up a very important aspect of leadership.  I think people who are humble and seek inner satisfaction and inner achievement versus the recognition of their achievements from others, often become fare superior leaders.  Could you explain more on the empathy and compassion aspect of becoming arrogant?</p>
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		<title>By: Art Petty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Petty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, thanks so much for the comments.  I agree!  I love working on these projects Mary Jo and appreciate her putting up with me and my always a bit too long posts!  -Art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, thanks so much for the comments.  I agree!  I love working on these projects Mary Jo and appreciate her putting up with me and my always a bit too long posts!  -Art</p>
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		<title>By: Steven M. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven M. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Jo,

You asked: Do you think that someone who has crossed that line can see it in themselves? If not, how can they self-recognize these problems?

I can certainly see it myself. When I stick my finger out, I know it&#039;s time to back off and rethink my message.

Like recognizing errors in your own writing, recognizing when you have behaved arrogantly is difficult. We all have self-defense mechanisms that prevent us from seeing our own errors. We see what we want to see.

But if we seek feedback from people we trust and feel safe with, we can find patterns. And with the patterns we can detect some, but not all, of the problems on our own. We always need others to help us recognize communication problems because the receiver&#039;s interpretation is critical to sending successful messages.

Art, I failed to recognize your contributions to this post in my tweet and previous comment. Nice work. You and Mary Jo make a great writing team. Best regards, Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Jo,</p>
<p>You asked: Do you think that someone who has crossed that line can see it in themselves? If not, how can they self-recognize these problems?</p>
<p>I can certainly see it myself. When I stick my finger out, I know it&#8217;s time to back off and rethink my message.</p>
<p>Like recognizing errors in your own writing, recognizing when you have behaved arrogantly is difficult. We all have self-defense mechanisms that prevent us from seeing our own errors. We see what we want to see.</p>
<p>But if we seek feedback from people we trust and feel safe with, we can find patterns. And with the patterns we can detect some, but not all, of the problems on our own. We always need others to help us recognize communication problems because the receiver&#8217;s interpretation is critical to sending successful messages.</p>
<p>Art, I failed to recognize your contributions to this post in my tweet and previous comment. Nice work. You and Mary Jo make a great writing team. Best regards, Steve</p>
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